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moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point, the moderator. i know jim lehrer has taken a lot of abuse because he lost control of the debate. we want the moderate enough to be in control. why should be in control of the debate? the debate ought to be about the participants. if the moderator ever in the future says, we have got to stop this and move on, i would like to hear one candidate say, why? besides we have to have six segments instead of five. >> the criticism of jim lehrer is -- from time to time, obama would look at him saying, help me, jim. mitt is not playing fair. >> in that case, the candidates should simply ask each other questions. >> as of friday, realclearpolitics average. wisconsin, obama, 7.6. michigan, 10 appeared pennsylvania, 10. new hampshire, six. ohio, 5.5. virginia, 3.5. are those numbers don't change, jonathan? >> i think you will see a tightening of the race to florida and virginia will be competitive. the problem for romney is ohio. no republican has ever won the white house without ohio. there is a path for him to do
's zinger against dan quayle. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: and this from ross perot's running mate. >> who am i? why am i here? >> reporter: questions unlikely to surface thursday night, at least by these two. ron mott, nbc news, st. petersburg, florida. >>> and a reminder, we'll have live nbc news coverage of every moment of thursday night's debate, including our correspondents and analysis. that's thursday night here on this nbc station, 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pacific time. >>> in pennsylvania, this was sentencing day for jerry sandusky. convicted earlier this year of 45 counts of child sexual abuse. tonight a judge has sent him to prison for what will most likely be the rest of his life. but not before the former penn state assistant coach had his say in court. nbc's john yang has our report from the courthouse. >> reporter: jerry sandusky said nothing as he arrived in a red prisoner's jumpsuit over a bulletproof vest, looking thinner after 112 days in jail. inside, he sat passively, as three of his victims told the court of the psychological effects of sandusky's abu
kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and protectees. >> before the debate, "time" magazine released these photos. it triggered what was called a dumbbell debate. >>> a search on google images with the phrase completely wrong brings up mitt romney. google says there's no partisan politics here. he used the phrase about his 47% comments. >>> california congressman was debating when things got testy. the rhetoric heated up and sherman got physical. before things escalated into a wrestling match, a police officer stepped in and the debate wrapped up with no injuries. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. here is your "first look" of how wall street is going to close. the dow closed down
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's face off between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from the economy to foreign affairs. randall pinkston is at the debate site in danville, kentucky. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. both candidates came here on a mission. congressman ryan to criticiz
fireworks. >> it has been done a couple of times. >> it has never. >> kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: they delivered stark differences on domestic and foreign policy, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own life. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after to president obama for his response to the attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terror attack. >> you are jeopardizing the program changing from a guaranteed ben >> reporter: more heated than the first presidential -- debate. biden often laughed at right ran's arguments. >> joe biden understood he had to do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight both president obama and mitt romney watched closely. >> the president: i thought joe biden was terrific. i could
a couple times. >> it has never. >> jack kennedy. ronald reagan. >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a bit of a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. a watch party of students turned out for this historic debate between two catholic vice presidential candidates. >> i am catholic and it's nice to hear them say they are practicing. but i think a lot of the policy they forget about their religion. >> even this campus only about 50 students showed up to watch the vice presidential debate. there were plenty of empty seats. >>> president obama watched the vice presidential debate on air force one as he was returning to washington from a campaign visit from florida. following the debate the president told reporters he thought joe biden was terrific and already called the vice president to congratulate him. mitt romney watched the debate at his hotel room in ashville, north carolina. the campaign spokesman said he called paul ryan immediately after the debate to congratulate him. on our website at ktvu.com we posted more video of last night
personal. >> jack kennedy lowered taxes, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: barb after barb. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all of the four minutes then. >> reporter: biden was often dominant. maybe a little too dominant. republicans claimed he interrupted ryan 82 times. often breaking out in laughter. even when ryan was talking about iranian nukes. >> and all i have to point to -- >> reporter: biden was even all smiles when he accused ryan of basically not telling the truth. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they disagreed on virtually everything. from syria, to medicare. >> now they got a new plan. trust me. it's not going to cost you any more. folks, follow your instincts on this one. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, tur
're proposing. >> it's never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he s
in the night for the wisconsin congressman. >> ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, your jack kennedy. >> reporter: as predicted by the campaign, the vice president came out grinning, flapping, flailing arms. he was aggressive, attacking the republican ticket hard. >> we will have credibility on this issue. >> incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place, in spite of their opposition. it has been discredited by studies, over 100 criminal investigations. >> reporter: along the way, the vice president cut in. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when mr. ryan said that romney was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden won. >> the vice president did. >> why? >> i think he came off as being very strong, emotional, and i like the looking at the camera and talking to the american people. >> reporter: another, paul ryan. >> vice president
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're no jack kennedy kind of putdown. it was very strong substantive. in fact, the president said this was afic he might not have thought that later whether he got to reviews. >> if you look at romney's opening statements, he touched alheeed to. he talked about voters in ohio and nevada. i feel your pain. gwen: told stories. >> told stories. he did the five things he's running on. he talked about the president's past. respectfully said it wasn't going in the right direction. then 0 minutes later after a good cut and thrust between the two of them he delivered a near-flawless closing argument as if he were reading from a teleprompter -- he wasn't. the president's closing argument was meandering. >> i don't think it was all orhe pde. i agree with everything that's been said about governor romney. he had a great night. gwen: he came to play. >> that's right. he practic took me off from t it paid off big time. he solidifyed that base and boy, did he have to do that. gwen: and he closed that likeability gap for a lot of people. >> yes, but what the president did was -- he did some subtle things an
're no jack kennedy and everybody thought there was a big boost. we never saw a president dukakis. >> that's for sure. chris, always great to see you and have your insight and experience. thanks. >> thank you, eric. >> chris's interview with kelly ayotte and martin o'malley on "fox news sunday" some debate tips. boy, does somebody need that. debate coach brett o'donnell will give his insight. >>> there's a very rare form of meningitis claiming more lives and it spreads the country. we'll tell you if you're at risk and what you need to do right now to protect yourself. "sunday house call" coming up. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management >>> groovy music and great topics is what we have today on "sunday house call." joining us, dr. david smatty, chief of robotics at the mount sinai medical center. >> and dr. marc siegel. he's also the auth
>> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible. last night, ryan blasted the white house. >> it took the president two weeks to announce it was
ryan was full of attacks. >> there has done -- >> 0 now your jack kennedy. >> finger-pointing. >> 23 million americans are out of work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. >> and a lot of laughs. >> i know you are under a lot of brass -- duress. >> he also challenged mitt romney the's tax plan. >> it should not be surprising geared for a guy who says 47% of people are unwilling to take responsibility. they pay more tax than gov. romney pays. >> the moderator's as the setting was more intimate. >> the jabs at one another, it felt was more personal. >> both sides are claiming victory as the waste no time heading back out on the campaign trail to rally more support. >> it is basically a tie. joe biden brought energy. and paul ryan brought the seriousness the republicans needed. >> today on the campaign trail is back to business for both of them. joe biden will have to hire with mitt romney. first, fighting for virginia. a live picture ready to get under way in richmond. scott thuman is there with a report starting at 5:00 p.m. the meantime, coming up on news at noon, if e
done before. >> it has been done a couple times before. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> but there was an under current of mutual respect and when it ended the two families joined them on stage. in the polls they were wondering if this man did enough to restore team obama's confidence. >> 10 years ago indonesia underwent the boly bombings many torturists from pretty much all over the world. survivors have been back to bomby to commemorate the anniversary. security was tight after they were warned of attacks. >> 10 years on. and the emotions are still raw. for some, the memorys are too much to bear. looking at the photos of those who died, australian and indonesiain' leaders stayed extremists tried to sew hatred between them, but failed. >> terrorists have killed and maimed thousands around the world but they will never sundayer or displace a single ideal. we will never forget all that we lost. we will hold fast to that which remains. to our determine nation as a free people to explore the world and unheld by fear. to defeat terrorism. >> this was a tragedy that affect
a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger than i thought it would be. >> greta: is a number you're confident of? though you're surprised?. >> i would probably say some component of statistics. i won't be surprise fd it ticks up a little bit next month. the survey of people which is what the unemployment rate comes from has a job creation margin of error plus or minus 400,000 per month. anyone as i say, every month take a three-month average if you want to know how the job market is doing. >> greta: let me ask you about a three month average. this is what i said tonight. he said job growth in slept slower than in august. he said august slower tha
times. >> it has never been. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes too decent. joe biden is showing you have to stay with the facts. >> those people obviously thought joe biden dominated the debate. republicans thought paul ryan came out ahead. no surprise there. we have posted more video of last nights debate just look for world and u.s. news tab. >>> another debate is making headlines but for very different reasons. youtube video shows two southern california lawmakers almost getting in a fight. coming up at 5:45 what was behind this heated exchange. >>> happening right now the space shuttle endeavour is on the move. it's headed from lax to its permanent home at the cal
kennedy lowered tax rates and biden quickly fired back "so now you're jack kennedy?" generated 50,000 tweets per minute. president obama and mitt romney meet next tuesday at hofstra university in new york this will be in a found hall format. abc 7 will carry it live. >>> traffic and weather together, next on abc7 morning news. live look outside now this is the embarcadero where you can see the shiney roads still a little slick. meteorologist mike nicco will have your full forecast. we'll check in with sue hall who is tracking muni metro lines not running now due to huge restaurant fire. >>> also, more problems for toyota. new consumer reports alert >>> welcome back. higher elevations to the east of milpitas and fremont right now along calaveras avenue where we have our lone shower. if you look at live doppler it is showing drying trend as the next wave of showers are going to stay in the central valley and head farther south there. for us pockets of sunshine develop this afternoon after the morning's mist and drizzle and shower activity that will be it temperatures below average i
and it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they are losing the debate and everybody knows it. >> the problem for republicans with the gore narrative, al gore did someth
. >>> jack kennedy and paul ryan, perfect together? some things about them that are similar. both young, energetic, viant. paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> nevereen done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now. kennedy's plan, enacted after his death, took the top marginal tax rate from 91% to 71% over a two-year period. lots of lo
. >> never done before. >> jack kennedy lower the tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. melissa: exhausting right? that is one of many testy exchanges. an coulter is political conservative commentator and author of, mugged. what do you think, ann? does any of that translate into votes? >> that is the question. that is precisely the question that i don't think the obama partisans are asking themselves. biden's debate performance was very good gining up partisan zealots supporting obama come hell or high water. but for those crucial independents and undecided voters and also a lot of my gender, his smirking and fake laughter and scoffing, was incredit by off-putting. and i mean, biden reminded you of the worst boss you ever had, the worst boyfriend you ever had. the worst person you have ever met. melissa: there are people who thought that president obama wasn't strupg enough last time around and he came out and really socked it to paul ryan. i just, i wonder, you mentioned the undecided voters. every time i hear that i wonder who is undecided at this point? do you think there are a lot of th
think. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment is in scranton? 10%. when you guys came in it's 8.5%. >> you don't read this. that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> look -- >> all right. you're going to hear more about the debate coming up throughout the day on msnbc. that is going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company." i'm chris jansing. richard lui is in next. >> malarkey was my favorite. one of the top tweeted moments. >> unbelievable how much traction that got. >> have a good weekend. coming up this next hour, pardon the interruption, the vice president brings the heat with laughs, guffaws and jabs that some say in a debate too
of times now you're jack kennedy? ( laughter ) this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats, have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan views-- >> we told each other what we were going to do. we said here are the things we're going to cut. >> here's the framework. we'll fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. let me say this way. >> that's come fraig republican congress working bipartisanly, a 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle. he didn't comp promise principle. >> you saw what happened. >> he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job ifour times without raising taxes. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts. >> vice president, what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce-- >> just let the taxes expire like they're supposed to on those million
done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> okay. good morning. >> i missed that one. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it's friday, october 12th. with us on set, we have the former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. and contributor to "newsweek" and the daily beast and former adviser to george w. bush, mark mckinnon. >> wait. no, hold on. what is that, willie? >> it's fair to call it the mexican scarf. >> willie and i both were thinking about wearing that yesterday, but we were afraid we'd come to the set wearing the same thing. >> yes. maybe mark feels the need to distract this morning. >> distracting. let's see what al hunt is wearing this morning. >> washington executive -- oh -- of bloomberg news, al hunt. oh, my goodness. and from the site of last night's debate in zanvilldanvil kentucky, mark halperin. >> i think i speak for everybody when i say this morning we are all washington senators. >> we are. >> i'm still not going to call them the nats. we had a debate,
jack kennedy did when he sought to be president. >> senator bentsen? >> senator hite, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. [[cheers and applause] >> please, you are only taking time from your own candidate. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. [cheers and applause] >> you are the one that was making the comparison, senator. and i'm the one who knew him well. frankly, i think you are so far off that i did not think the comparison was well taken. >> on this morning's washington journal, a look at the upcoming presidential debates. our guest is chairman of a group that trains republican candidates for office. and then the washington bureau chief for mother jones, who uncovered the video of mitt romney talking about a 47% of americans who don't pay taxes. and we will look at medicare's and growing cost with health care reporter from congressional quarterly. washington journal is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> this government has promised, has maintained the closest surveillance
before. >> it's been done a couple of times actually. jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth rate. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> so who won? we asked folks who watched the debate who won. according to the cnn/orc poll 48% said ryan performed better. 44% gave it to joe biden. that's within the margin of error. let's get some perspective on this. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. ron brownstein is the editorial director for the national journal. let's start with substance. there's been a lot of talk about style. i want you to listen to how each of the men handled the issue of libya, something that's in the news right now, and that deadly attack on the u.s. consulate. listen. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. and, by the way, at the time, we were told exactly -- we said exactly what the intelligence community told us, that they knew. >> jessica
the most tweets? the answer is -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> now you're jack kennedy. more than 58,000 tweets were sent after the kennedy reference. one more thing, moderator martha raddatz, twitter followers increased from 6,000 to more than 20,000 during the debate. and join our conversation online. you can join me on twitter. i think i'm at 50,000 now and @newsnation. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to aleve. and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ female announcer ] and try aleve for relief from tough headaches. [ female announcer ] and try aleve then don't miss sleep train's wbest rest event.st ever? you'll find sleep train's very best mattresses at the guaranteed lowest price. plus, pay no interest for 3 years on
with jack kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. memorable moments. there have been others. bob dole who proved to be such a hatchet man. but the vice presidential debate has never changed anything. yes, it is important but not that important. the choice remains barack obama versus mitt romney, but aren't we all counts on joe to come out and challenge paul ryan on every one of his lies and expose the lies that he and mitt romney have been telling? we're looking forward to tonight. 866-55-press, the "full court press" on this thursday october 11th. good to have you with us. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv. ♪ of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents fabulous but...when i add chicken barbecue sauce... and cheese...and roll it up woo-wee! i've made a barbecue chicken crescent chow down. pillsbury crescents. let the making begin. [ female announcer ] why settle for plain bread?
of your mouth the right way. >> oh, now you are ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here is the deal -- >> what does that mean a bunch of stuff? >> simply inaccurate. >> it is is irish. >> and as for the first debate -- >> it is fair to say i was too polite. >> not an issue with these guys. >> it then turned into a sparring and it was very, very personal. >> personal and partisan. >> you have to be kidding me. >> and in fact, the congressional hearing on the attack in benghazi was downright testy. >> it was a terrorist attack on an asset in libya and never exposed. >> i certainly hope that today's hearing is not going to be received for political purposes only 24 days from the election. >> yeah, about the election, thele pos have been good to romney this week, and the contradictions, that is another story. >> there is no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> wow. here is old moderate, mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all of these three days. >> a day later he clar
knew jack kennedy, and you're no jack kennedy, and it became this famous sort of slice down. it was kind of the end of the debate. you look at when walter mondale was debating, and there was this age issue about reagan and whether he was -- you know, whether he was getting too old, et cetera, and he joked about it. it was after a bad debate, actually, and he joked about it and said i'm not going to make my opponents relative youth an issue here. there are things that can happen, and the dynamic really is the senior statesman and the new young upstart as you go in the joe biden and paul ryan. i think it will be fascinating to watch not just for what they say. there's a ryan plan on capitol hill that we'll hear about, and i think it's not just that. there's, what, 30 years between them. >> ryan certainly isn't shy about speaking his mind either. he could get pretty feisty. >> absolutely. and, you know, biden has done this over time for many, many years, and, again, ryan is kind of new to the scene. not that many debates under his belt. it can go either way here optically and w
jack kennedy. he was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments but hardly game changers. presidential debates can impact vice-presidential debate like this one between biden and all of ryan. they could be different. >> you need to be seeing that they are ready. that there will be ready in a national crisis to be able to step into the oval office and to take a rain of the presidency. beyond that, once they are and that they could start seek touching moments it is really changing the debates. >> the strategic is saying that the first rule is to do no harm a. >> in terms of senses to not to break ground this is not an audition. this is only 2012. >> i do not like a damn thing about it. >> joe biden committed to 20 different debate saying that the contact is never easy. >> i have mostly been doing is quite frankly studying up on ryan's positions on his issues. and romney has embraced from everything that i have seen. i do not want to see that everything is completely accurate. >> what do they think of strength. >> for paul brien it is his ability to
and that was the one and we are seeing the moment right here where benson says to dan quayle you are no jack kennedy and you can hear the roar from the crowd. does all this matter? >> we the debate was over i asked the question of quayle if something happened to the president god forbid what would you do? >> benson had a chance to think about it while quayle was fumbling to give him another crack at it to be fair and he fumbled it again and tom brokaw gave it another time. that left the opening for jack benson to say you are no jack kennedy. i thought at the time this will turn this into a route and be the sound bite played forever and this is a bad night tore the gop ticket. i went down stairs into the press room and saw you david broader of the washington post a long time pretty fair minded reporter and i said what do you think about this. he said there may be some marginal effect but i don't think it will make much difference. he was absolutely right. in the end it didn't make any noticeable difference in the outcome of the election. >> chris: 15 seconds kirsten, does it matter? >> matters very l
, we are seeing the moment, where bentsen says to dan quayle, you are no jack kennedy and, you hear the roar from the crowd but he was running with dukakis and we didn't end up with him. >> i remember after the debate was over i asked the question of dan quayle, if something happened to the president, god forbid what would be the first thing you'd do and he fumbled the question and, lloyd bentsen had a smooth answer and i asked the same question again, because i thought, he had a chance to think about it while dan quayle fumbled and give him another crack at it to be fair, right? and he fumbled it again and, tom brokaw asked a third time and he gave the answer mentioning jack kennedy and left the opening for him to say that. what i'm saying is, i thought at the time, man, that will turn it into a rout and will be the sound bite that plays forever, this is a bad night for the ticket. the g.o.p. ticket. and i went downstairs afterwards into the press room and i saw david broder with the "washington post," a fair minded reporter and i said what do you think. >> and he said there might
kennedy and you're not jack kennedy, but that turned well for mr. quayle. >> he became the vice president of the united states. didn't he? a not so strong debate performance. overshadowed, out-debated by the elder lloyd benson back in 1988. i remember it well. my first president's campaign. and yet george h.w. bush went on to win the election. not just win the election, but win 40 states. 40 of the 50 states, george h.w. bush won in 1988. if anyone tells you what they know is going to happen on november 6th, i'd roll your eyes. a lot to talk about. two passionate guys representing the two ends of america's political, ideological spectrum. however, romney and obama lead the ticket. that's who people vote for on election day. >> passion and zingers and sound bites aside, in a 24/7 news cycle and only a couple days away from a very important presidential debate. how much sticking power will tonight have? >> a great question. one of the thingses that happens out of debates. what moments get replayed and replayed and replayed, not only on television but bounced around the internet, facebook, t
have more experience than jack kennedy when he was running for president and lloyd benson says, you're no jack kennedy. >> right. as the story goes, quale was warned not to make that comparison in his debate prep but for some reason it just stuck in his head as an effective tool but it blew up on him. >> and the funny thing is though, tamron, i talked to quale a couple of days ago. he said, i still benefitted the republican ticket in 1988 and in 1992 because i did what vice presidential candidates need to do in debatsz, not focus on the guy across the hall for me. yes, benson got a good line off on me, i focused on michael dukakis, bill clinton in 1992, and i think you can expect that paul ryan is going to do the same thing. >> john harwood, a big night. thank you so much for your time. i'll see you soon, john. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. stay with msnbc tonight with special primetime coverage of the vice presidential debate at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "the cycle" is up next. that ma. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you to
. it has never been done before. >> it has never been done before. ronald reagan and jack kennedy did it to increase growth. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> we told each other what we are going to do. we said this is what we will cut. >> that is how you get things done. let me say it this way. >> a republican congress working bipartisan way? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was a governor of massachusetts for 87% of the legislature he worked with was democrats. he did not demonize them. he met with them every week. he reached across the aisle and did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why is he even contesting massachusetts? >> from tonight's debate -- you can post and share clubs as you are seeing tonight from the debate. it is all from the debate hub on c-span.org as you watch and engage in the debates. from our twitter page -- curtis is on the phone from georgia on the independent line. >> i think that -- we have candidates today, we should be supporting each other. i think it is time to elect mature people and
that in a minute. back to you guys. >>> lower tax rates, increases growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden, paul ryan locking horns last night in the only vice-presidential debate of 2012. the vice-presidential candidates revived lloyd bentsen's 1988 jack kennedy line one of many barbs traded by the candidate last night. >> here's randall pinkston with highlights and results of a poll on who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what m
that, guys, coming up. >>> jack kennedy lowered tax rates increased growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2012. violent's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 -- vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb. >> here's randall pinkston are highlights from the clash in kentucky and results of who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt
before. >> it's been done a couple of times. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation in their voices and it's hard to say how this can be different. >> it's politics, my friend. talk taxes because i keep hearing this 20% across the board tax cut and then i hear the counterclaim, you can't pay for that. the math doesn't work. >> you can't make the math work. >> we have looked into this and the tax policy center says you can't make the math work. paul ryan's claim that you can cut it 20% across the board and keep it intact all of the while keeping it neutral and it says given the information available that we have about their plans is just not possible to cut th
kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> we're cutting our own defense. >> this one liner from joe biden became the most tweeted moment of the night. was he channeling lloyd bentsen. >> policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion with the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. >> well, i guess he accepts governor romney's position now because in the past he had has argued that there was rape and forcible rape -- >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. the table is now reset for next week's matchup between the president and governor romney's after last night's combative contest in danville between the running mates. the vice presidential candidates sparred for 90 minutes in a contentious debate that delighted their bases but what is the impact on independent and undecided voters. joining me david gregory moderator of "meet the press" and chris cizilla msnbc contributor and managing editor of post-politics.com. the big night in danville first to you, chris overnight quick reaction polls which we don't rely on because they're o
're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times, actually. jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> but all the headlines are about whether or not joe biden and paul ryan were being disrespectful through laughter and smirks. mostly joe biden. why isn't there more focus on the substance of the debate? that's next. >>> also ahead, defense secretary leon panetta says the u.s. is at risk of a cyber pearl harbor. who could be behind such an attack? how do we prevent it? that's later on the "closing bell." tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with schwab mobile, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can focus on trading anyplace, anytime... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 until i choose to focus on something else. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 trade at c
done. >> it has never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> both campaigns are claiming victory. >> mr. ryan said that governor romney was a car guy. if they have an elevator stacked on their couch, i guess he was. >> there was one person on stage who was thought full, respect l respectful, steady and poised, the kind of person you want to turn to in a crisis and that was the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. i see these obama rallies and they're chanting four more years. our cheer is four more weeks. >> guys, i have to say, that was easily my most favorite debate of the season so far. i think biden was the clear winner, gave democrats the shot of energy they needed, hammered them on the 47%, hammered him on lying, said the facts matter. the moment where they talked about abortion was so destructive because ryan said i'm going to make you all do what i believe in my catholic doctrine and biden said, hey, i believe this, i respect catholic doctrine but i'll let you do what you want to do and made the case that the supreme court i
of times, actually. >> it has never been done before. jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. i accept it in my personal life. i just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. i do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women, they... they can't control their body. it's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. and the supreme court-- i'm not going to interfere with that. >> woodruff: biden warned a conservative supreme court majority would overturn a woman's right
and outbursts. >> jack kennedy lowers tax rates. >> oh now you're jack kennedy. >> could have controlled it a little bit better. >> now questions after "time" magazine published these paul ryan pictures. >> plus, how they'll tackle the face-off this weekend. >>> is bobbiri
before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> it has never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> here's how cnn scored it, practically a tie. vice president biden's son beau will discuss. first, governor romney on the warpath over libya, saying joe biden is in complete denial when he said during the debate last night the white house had no clue the u.s. consulate in benghazi wanted more security before the deadly attack that killed the ambassador. let's get right to our first guest to talk about it. republican congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house select committee on intelligence. mr. rogers, thank you for joining me. let me ask you straight away about your reaction to this issue that's now blowing up pretty big today about what joe biden said about what was known by we, and i use the word we advisedly. let's playirst of all what was said by joe biden and by paul ryan in the debate last night. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney/r
quayle, but benson's ticket lost. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine, yes. okay, new pew poll out today shows mitt romney with a four-point lead over president obama among likely voters, but of course, everyone is watching polls from the key battleground states -- ohio, florida, michigan, to some extent now. is there any indication, or do you see any trends looking at the national numbers that tell you, do they influence voters in swing states? do they give us an indication of how voting might go in swing states? >> oh, absolutely, on the latter, an indication. one of the reasons we at gallup focus a lot on the national numbers is because the same tide that will sweep voters nationally usually will move voters in the swing states. it's very rare that the national numbers don't reflect what's in the swing states or the electoral college. 200020 being the most recent exception. so yes, if we're seeing romney doing better nationally, there's no doubt we will see him, as we have in some polls, doing better in the swing states as well. so, the two move in lockstep bas
are no jack kennedy. it turned out that lloyd bentsen was no vice president, either. because it just didn't matter. will this thing matters subsequently to the outcome of the presidential election? >> i think you will be an important evening. an opportunity for him to show america what a wonderful human being he is. his level of integrity and intelligence and his knowledge about the budget. let's face it, we are facing a predictable crisis in this nation and the reason why i was so excited when governor romney pics paul ryan is not only do i know him as a fine human being, but he also, his actions put forward real solutions. that is so critically important nowadays when america is hungry for leadership, which this president simply has not. paul has been providing that leadership and that is what we saw what governor romney as well. someone who had a command presents. he helps to get the legislation passed and i will be a critical difference. >> will he be able to do as well if they score as well, will he be able to post a historic victory over vice president biden as governor romney did o
of times before. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- republican and democrats -- republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said here are the things we're going to cut. >> we're going to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it this way. >> that coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them, he didn't demagogue them, he met with the party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principles -- >> and you saw what happened. >> and he balanced the budget. >> he did such a great job. >> vice president -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest -- what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce it long term? >> just let taxes exp
done before. >> it's been done a couple times, actually. jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent millions of dollars. you know why he -- >> you did ask for stimulus money? >> won it occasions. we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. his words. i wish he would just tell -- be a little more candid. >> unlike last week's presidential debate, tonight's debate did include some discussion of women's health issues, specifically each side's stance on abortion. >> if the rom
been -- >> lower tax rates increase growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? >> you did ask for stimulus money, right? >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter, saying the reason we need this, it will create growth and jobs. his words. >> i want to move on here to medicare entitlements. i think we've gone over this quite enough. >> by the way -- >> reporter: but the night would not be complete without a bidism. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why is that? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they were very feisty. all right. we've got joe tuman. and let's talk about body language a little bit. we talked about
. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> the interruptions, the facial expressions, and the facts. we're going to have the high lights, the low lights, the arguments and a fact check as well on the candidates' claims. it's friday october 12th. "starting point" comes to you live from danville, kentucky. >>> good morning, welcome everybody. you're watching "starting point." we're coming to you live this morning from center college here in danville, kentucky. things last night right here were pretty heated between the vice presidential candidates, no one had a bad night. nobody was too polite. instead joe biden, paul ryan, simply let it fly and when it was over the american people scored it a draw. cnn/orc poll of debate watchers showed that 48% felt that paul ryan won. 44% said that the vice president joe biden won. of course that would be a statistical tie when you calculate in the margin of error. we begin with cnn's dana bash with some of the highlights of the night. good morning. >> good morning. we were here. we watched it all. you really could feel the intensity of it from the beginning. a
never -- >> john kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh. now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: vice president joe biden and republican challenger, paul ryan, delivered stark difference on domestic and foreign policy. including how to fix the economy. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after president obama for his response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. >> reporter: while biden challenged ryan's proposed changes to medicare. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you're changing the program from a guaranteed benefit. >> reporter: it was a more heated back and forth than the first presidential debate. and biden often laughed at ryan's arguments. >> joe biden understood, ton
on the cause. >>> lower tax rates, increase growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2010 -- 2012, rather. the vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb, here's the results of a poll on who came out on top with randall pinkston. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch mularkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges ryan insinuated that p
romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case biden failed not only on style. >> quite frankly i was emrrassed for the vice president. i mean the laughs. we counted 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance pointing to the vice president's response on whether there was adequate security before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> and they wanted more security there. >> well, we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> we just had a major hearing on this. that was one of the heart -- the heart of the point was these requests went unheated. and obviously the vice presiden
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- gwen: what won? style or sush stance. breaking it down for us tonight. doyle mcmanus of the "los angeles times." alexis simendinger of real clear politics. karen tumulty of "the washington post." and jeff zeleny of "the new york times." >> award winning reporting and analysis. covering history as it happens. live from our nation's capital, this is "washington week with gwen ifill." produced in association with "national journal." corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- >> we know why we're here. >> to connect our forces to what they need when they need it. >> to help troops see danger. before it sees them. >> to answer the call of the brave and bring them safely home. >> around the globe, the people of boeing are working together to support and protect all who serve. >> that's why we're here. >> this rock has never stood still. since 1875, we've been there for our clients through good times and bad. when their needs changed, we were there to meet them. through the years, from insurance to investment management, from real
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